Yes, plant that Reed! I cant speak from personal experience about my own Sharwil trees because theyre too young, so this guess is based on what Ive seen in others Sharwil trees in Southern California. I wrote to the manager, asked if they had avocado trees available, sent a bank transfer, did the arrangements for the shipping and the trees were delivered to Nice. I read that Duke 7 (American) and Dusa (South African) are to this day the best rootstocks. Theyre for my parents and theyre concerned about consuming yield from two trees, but maybe after a few years, theyll be up for another! Most people are a bit lazy when it comes to tree pruning. Its great for grapes and pomegranates, harsh for avocados. Even in warm-winter locations it doesnt always bear as well as some A types. One concern I have about fresh trimmings is the build up of spores and what not from it just being piled up (6 inches or so thick). My goal is to help others grow food at home, with a focus on vegetables and fruits -- especially avocados -- in Southern California. Due to the protracted nature of avocado flowering in this region, all varieties had some degree of cross-over. This is a tough call. Florida avocados, for one, have less fat; one cup of the fruit has 23 grams of fat compared to a Hass avocado's 35 grams. Ill try some beneficial predator mites next. As your commenter mentioned above, this list might not be optimal for those of us in slightly cooler areas. I would think that arctic blasts during winter will be your main limiting factor. I know thats not down the street, but . In terms of comparing it to the taste of other avocados, thats tricky for me. I wish I had time to make more videos. To speed up the avocado ripening process we recommend placing unripe avocados in a brown paper bag with an apple or banana for two to three days until they are ripe. Ill write it within the next couple weeks and title it something like Avocado varieties for year-round fruit.. Thanks for writing. They have plenty of space, but Im leaning towards the GEM, since its so easy to get a hold of Hass at the markets. SOLD OUT FOR 2022. We recommend storing your avocado at room temperature in the fruit bowl until it reaches the preferred ripeness for eating. There are some Hawaiians that do well in CA and FL, like Kona Sharwil. So from Armstrong and Evergreen and Walter Andersen, etc. Thanks again! I hope you get a chance to plant a real avocado tree or three this spring. If I couldnt find a Reed, Id substitute with a Lamb. . The Hass has a ton and the Fuerte as well. This way youre likely to rarely get bad damage. Thanks for the info. var. Im also always unsure what Im going to find at these types of stores, which is why I always have a look when Im shopping there. (See page 28 in Gary Benders book, Avocado Production in California. Thanks for the feedback on Holiday. Thanks for the input, and its really along the lines that I was looking down. Thank you for your reply, After doing some research and asking question in my neighborhood the last couple of days, I found out that Im not the only one with this problem. It just does not seem logical) But later I read, that often Fuerte is not a reliable cropper. Sharwil is not as 'nutty' as Hass, but has a mild but rich fullness of flavor and lingering creamy after-taste that transcends Hass. You can always try a Hass too, and just prune it to the size you want. . Ive got a Fuerte tree that Ive grafted a couple Pinkerton and Lamb branches into, but this situation is easier because I want those Pinkerton and Lamb branches to stay small and just provide pollen for the Fuerte; Im not trying to have each variety take up about a third of the canopy area. Ive only eaten them once though, a handful of years ago up in Carpinteria. Plus, Ive seen in my own yard that Fuerte pollenizes Pinkerton very well: https://youtu.be/xGNTxYU-X50, Greg love your article and all the discussions. Once you have tried a GreyStar avocado, you will quickly conclude that GreyStar is several rungs up the ladder from Hass in flavour, quality and value. I would like a dwarf variety to keep in a large pot on a deck about 4 miles from the San Diego Coast. Truth is, youll probably be happy with either a Reed or a Sharwil in every way. But I have no idea if tomato Phytophthora is related to Phytophthora that affects avocado trees. ))) The only varieties that I would avoid for the use of shade are Holiday, Wertz, Stewart, Gwen, and Lamb. About 8 miles inland in Southern Sonoma County. During the big freeze a few years ago, the temp got so low that it killed a lot of local avocados. A single fruit can weigh over a pound and the tree grows to reach just 8 feet indoors, or 15 to 20 feet when planted outside. An American friend of mine bought me a Sir Prize tree, but we learnt that the shipping to France was way too expensive (8 times more expensive than the plant itself), and we also had no garanties that the plant would pass the customs. Please find attached the pictures of the avocado tree in Nice (the variety is unknown, picture taken on the 1st of November). I sure am no botanist)))). One, how well does your Fuerte produce? If you have a very productive Fuerte, then you wont start eating much of your Hass fruit until probably mid to late spring. The Hass is a tough act to follow, but Backyard. Our greenhouse has 14ft ceilings. Im guessing it was the chlorine that did the damage. Greg, thanks for the article and all the comments. have a question about sizing when purchasing. And please let me know how your adventure in avocado growing proceeds. I have never tasted anything but supermarket Hass from distant lands so all I can do is read or watch videos of people describing how each variety tastes like. Youre right Walter. dont know how to grow in your region, Im glad you have shared how things are doing at your place so others nearby are clued in. Warm regards, In your climate, dangerous heat in spring and early summer just doesnt happen. Was looking at Sir Prize, your article leans toward Haas, stay with Haas? More than half the fat in avocados is the healthy monounsaturated fat (the type in olive oil) and saturated fat is minimal. Ive driven through Mendocino and farther north many times, but havent seen bearing avocados growing up there with my own two eyes. I wish you luck with the planting this is a perfect time for it. So if possible, I would also add a third tree of a B-type flower and keep it small and use it just for the flowers (strip all or most of its fruit each year). I see the UC grafting resource you posted, but I am curious how to select varieties that would be well suited for grafting to the same tree. This autumn, I decided to order more avocado trees from Brokaw. I have bought a number of trees there. That sounds like a nice combination of trees, and it sounds like theyre growing very well. Thank you! Some answers to these questions can be found here: Ill suggest other varieties and give lots of reasons and scenarios in the upcoming post. So I decided to plant a Hass and a Sir Prize which sounded like a great variety. Sharwil avocados are the only Hawaiian avocado authorized for shipment to the mainland of the United States. Both have excellent tasting fruit. Sharwil is the best tasting avocado in the world according to some - better even than Hass. The Nabal trees I know are not so wide spreading like a Fuerte, and neither are they more upright like a Bacon can be. (See more on this from a paper by Peter A. Maybe one day you will see it. I am looking for a variety that would : (GEMs harvest season is basically spring into summer.) See my post, Can you grow an avocado in a small yard?. 1. AvoSeedo Avocado Tree Growing Kit, Green, Practical Gifts for Women, Mom, Sister & Best Friend, Plant Indoors with Novelty Pit Grower Boat & Kitchen Garden Seed Starter 6,659 $9.96 $ 9 . Take out the two dead and the one just barely hanging on and plant three new trees or find an entirely new place to plant away from the pool? Thanks for the response. Pollenizers havent been shown to make much of a difference close to the ocean like you. The tree's canopy can range in shape from low, dense, and symmetrical, to upright and asymmetrical. Also I was thinking of grafting Lamb Hass onto the Hass so I can extend that season. So I tried a Reed for the first time today from the farmers market. Carmen Hass is similar to Hass Avocado but smaller 6-14 oz fruit. A whole avocado contains around 11.8 grams of carbs ( 1 ). The tree bears regular crops of large, round fruit of exceptional eating quality. We are Sunset zone 17. See this article about mulches and controlling root rot in avocados: http://www.avocadosource.com/WAC5/Papers/WAC5_p561.pdf. But Ill definitely write profiles of them when I feel like I know them well enough. Our southernmost facing front yard has a decent slope, so planning to plant there. As I mentioned in a different post I have a Fuerte and a Hass here in temecula, Ive been thinking of putting in a third to open the possibility of year round avocados. Sharwil avocados from . And if its a tiny tree youre after, then it doesnt get much smaller than Holiday (XX3). Craig. We have/had four avo trees planted next to each other. And compared to Reed, Fuertes production isnt as consistently high. But there are a lot of B types whose fruit I love so Im starting to keep my B types smaller or graft them into A types and eliminate their whole trees. The salt tolerance of some is not extremely better than others. I will tell you later how my adventure is going! If it doesnt, then I cant think of a downside to either GEM or Carmen that would give the other a significant edge. Give your avocado tree about 15 feet of space from other trees and plants. Ill be visiting a mature high-density planting in a couple weeks and Ill pass along anything new that I observe, but the main long-term challenge for most growers with this style is keeping on top of the pruning. The Sharwil avocados have a 15-26 percent oil content and are very popular in Hawaii. This is great news that you found and planted so many trees in Portugal! And one concern would be pairing a vigorous upright variety with a slow spreading variety. Plus 1 GEM, 1 Lamb and 1 Bacon. This way I still have the varieties (and I hope I get as much fruit as possible from them) but Im not wasting space and water on a lot of unproductive foliage. I cant imagine between them, my brother and I, that it will be a problem, lol. Greg, 2. We are really hoping we can make it work and would be grateful for any suggestions. It is probably the climate but since I have been surprised by other varieties nothing like finding out for . I decided on buying a clonal rootstock. Dig a hole twice as large as the tree's root system, carefully plant the tree and cover the roots. Whats Reed like? I also planted a Queen avocado tree in the spot where the Holiday was. But for others like Hass and Reed and Sharwil, to take the ones you mentioned, they just taste like awesome avocados. . But a couple are right on the cusp of that top tier. For anyone in the bay area I recommend Pinkerton and Lamb. One of them doesnt deliver to France. Its been since May since I communicated with you. Both ornamental and fruit trees are being affected, Its only about 8 miles to the Tijuana River valley from here which Im told is having a serious problem with shot hole borers, hope Im wrong but that may be the problem. And if you dont care about getting lots of fruit, then Holiday is a fine choice; it also naturally grows more like a shrub, which might look appropriate in a pot. I would like to let you know how my adventure in avocado growing proceeds. Maybe not the best. According to your post and other things Ive read a Reed would be a good choice but, then I started looking at Sharwil and the descriptions of the flavor sounds amazing. I like the combination of Pinkerton and Lamb; that makes a lot of sense in terms of tree size and complementary seasons. (See page 28 in. Sir-Prize is a very good avocado but I dont think its quite as good as those three, especially for your situation since its harvest season is only a little before Hass and overlapping with Hass. Persea americana x 'Mexicola Grande'. What an adventure youve gotten yourself into. I dont have a lot of firsthand experience with avocados in your area so I try to be keep quiet about what will grow well there and how to do it. I hope your trees grow lightning fast! While having less fat may seem appealing, the fats contained in Hass avocados are really rather healthful. A homegrown Hass, picked at prime time around May or June in southern Southern California, but some months later up near Point Conception and ripened at room temperature on a kitchen counter (not refrigerated and gassed with ethylene during its mishandling on the way to a retail outlet) is a knockout. High oil content - Sharwil and Hass both >25% oil. I dont think youll regret a Hass/Bacon pair unless you dont like the milder taste of Bacon. 3 years old Hass on Mexican race seedling; unknown type Very happy with my Zutano. I grew up against the same mountains, but out in Glendora, and Bacons do great there. The Gem is covered with avos, the other two have about 5 or six each. Oliver Atkins, the founder of the nursery, was the longtime chair of the Variety Committee of the California Avocado Society. I am in the hills of Montecito, south facing slope. In the meantime, there are heaps of other varieties that are already publicly available to explore. Greg, what rootstocks would you recommend for GEM, Lamb and Bacon? Eli also sells his avocados at farmers markets, and the one closest to you is in Corona Del Mar. Suggestions? (Theyll both produce some without a pollenizer.) LOL! A Florida avocado has the same kind of fats but in much lower quantities. You might try to ask someone nearby about the water they use, especially on a young tree (older trees are tougher). One is related to a nursery based in California called Brokaw: https://www.viverosbrokaw.com/?lang=en. Still, what most people prefer to do is plant multiple trees close together, even in one hole. Youll just want to be prepared to protect them in cold snaps during their first winter or two. Home Depot in Whittier has mainly had Zutanos, Bacons and Hass while Lowes hadnt had anything. Ill do it again this summer to figure out where not to plant less heat tolerant plants. 4. This is finally my update. I also started hearing about a lunchbox avocado that is being developed for high density planting. First propagated in 1911 in a California nursery, it got its name - Spanish for "strong" - after a particularly hard frost hit the area in 1913. Thank you! So a small Lunchbox avocado becoming available soon is not likely, as far as I can tell. Shot hole borers being involved didnt even occur to me, but now that you mention it that seems like a definite possibility. Lamb Hass Avocado. All avocado varieties need roughly the same care. Reed also stays green when its ripe. Im leaning towards Bacon and Lamb Hass. I hope I can answer all of your questions on this topic there. You live in a fantastic neighborhood for growing avocados, as you obviously know. Results and timelines of grafted avocados. Tree 2: This one has been tough to pin down, and I have come up with a few options based on my research. Lambs are also highly productive, taste very good, and mature in summer into fall. I havent seen any other Gwens growing in exactly those conditions. It's the plant hormone ethylene, which occurs . I have seen, in person, happy Hass and/or Reed trees in other parts of Southern California considered Sunset Zone 18, such as Rancho Cucamonga, Corona, and Redlands. With GEM as tree 1, you would find that Sir Prizes harvest season is earlier whereas Reed and Lamb are later. Thanks. They are on the bigger side, green-skinned, pear-shaped, and tasty. Do you agree that GEM would be a good choice? Averages are higher in the winter, when I would be at a shortage if I were to get a Reed. Medium sized, pear-shaped fruit has an excellent creamy, flesh. I wish I knew your yard in particular because there are always various microclimates within Sunset Zones and city limits, but unless youve got an unusually low and cold spot then these varieties should do fine. I do know MacArthur avocados. Btw, from my experience and reading on Aussie forums Sharwil is very heat sensitive so unless it is 80 all year around it is not worth growing. Seemed very mature, almost overmature, as the seed had germinated and the root was touching the peel on the bottom, and the seedcoat did not adhere to the seed. Your help would be most welcome, Im inclined to just replant everything because I dont find that damaged young trees recover very well. Now I have all three. I was given permission and I will get you some budwood hopefully within a year. Thanks. All these years I couldnt figure what it was. Thanks for all the info, very useful! Jan Boyce Avocado. The global Hass Avocado market is projected to reach USD million by 2028 from an estimated USD million in 2022, at a CAGR of Percent during 2023 and 2028. Three, how big will you let the Hass trees get? As for rootstocks, I havent seen them make a difference in my yard in terms of cold tolerance of the tree as a whole. The fruit is very similar to the Hass Avocado, except this variety is larger and has a longer shelf life. Thanks. I have many thoughts on this topic, but dont have the experience so I am curious to get your thoughts on this! And Gwen was developed just as Hass became king of the world avocado industry and growers and consumers alike began preferring black-skinned avocados. Do you think I should remove the one tree which has a few new green shoots? Multi-grafted avocado trees can work. I made one for my mom in her backyard about six years ago and its doing well. ), If I had to choose a pair for your location, I think Id try the combination of Pinkerton and Gwen or Reed. Griswold in a 1945 article titled, The Hass Avocado. This was written when the green Fuerte was king of a young California avocado industry. Type A flowers. You can go two ways about it. I cant live without one of the Mexicola types. Based on other research, Id been drawn to trying a GEM avocado tree here in NoCal on the coast (near Ft. Bragg and Mendocino). document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); I'm Greg. Option 1: Reed. I guess the mites are too small to interest Ladybugs. Plant a couple little vegetables in the spot to see how they do before planting new avocado trees. Sorry to hear about the decline of such a wonderful tree. Once you exclude the fiber, a whole avocado is simply 2.6 grams of net carbs. so youre saying when im trimming my own trees each year that i can just ask them to just dump them in my driveway so i can use it as mulch too? We got a Hass today, and were planning to plant it tomorrow in the sunniest spot in our yard, which usually stays pretty warm, even when its chilly. Maybe I shouldnt have put Reed in that list, but Reed isnt as vigorous as some other varieties such as Bacon, Fuerte, or Hass. years, 7 now. Thanks for allowing me to announce it here. I have been trying to research this for a while now trying to figure out the best combination for me. Fruit Weight: 7-14 oz. Two months ago my Nabal (in SoCal) was also developing a lot of yellow leaves with brown veins, and falling off. The second time I tried in on avocado toast and to my surprise it tasted even more like Fuerte. While Dusa is the global standard today, it does not perform best in all conditions with all scion varieties. Im leaning toward Gwen or Reed for a fall producer, and Holiday, Pinkerton or Wertz for winter production. Congratulations on your house in Covina. Your climate in Temecula is similar to mine in Ramona: a bit hot in summer; a bit cold in winter . Thank you so much. However, the main challenge is that different varieties grow at different rates so you have to prune in order to make sure that one (or more) dont take over and shade out the other(s). It is very helpful! Designed by Elegant Themes | Powered by WordPress, If the only Hass avocados youve had are from the grocery store, then you have no idea. The same occurred with my newly planted atemoya: the leaves turned black, and the tree dried to death. CA avocados like Lamb Hass don't do well in FL and vice versa. The problem is that theres so much to say. Notify me via e-mail if anyone answers my comment. Replaced with a Reed which is doing great so far. I ate my first ever Kona Sharwil today. The main negative is that, to me, Pinkertons dont taste quite as good as Fuertes. Do you need two avocado trees to get fruit? You just need to make sure that you plant on a mound. For the summer/fall varieties, Im unsure about Gwen. My second choice would be Hass and Fuerte. Your email address will not be published. The big difference: these avocados have significantly less fat. Thank you for your response and info. It doesnt matter which variety you plant in clayey soil. 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